Press Release of Senator Wyden
Wyden Challenges Order Authorizing Export of Alaskan Natural Gas
Tuesday, September 9, 2008
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Citing projections that natural gas will cost Americans an average of 22% more this winter than last, U.S. Senator Ron Wyden asked Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman to review and revoke the Department of Energy’s recent order authorizing the export of 98.1 billion cubic feet of Alaskan natural gas -- enough gas to meet the needs of 1.4 million American families -- to Japan other Pacific Rim countries.... For Complete Press Release and Full Text Of Letter, Click On Thread Title Above
Thursday, September 11, 2008
What Is An Ordinance?
What is an Ordinance?
Regulation or Law, as in: The city council passed an ordinance against disturbing the peace.www.business-words.com/dictionary/O.html
Does common sense tell you that as an elected official and when you take your oath of office , that you should freely swear/affirm to uphold the Laws/Ordinances you are charged with overseeing, administering and legislating?
And the sitting Clatsop County Board of Commissioners wants to sidestep that in their oath by leaving "Upholding all Ordinances" out of their oath?
It truly seems they believe they actually are an "Island Unto Themselves" and are completely unaccountable to the community they vow to serve.
And now, two of those characters that scoff at honoring the ordinancees of the county, one, over the airwaves, publicly chortling that honoring these ordinances could get one recalled by simply "wearing a certain type dress" and the other, as well, accusing another County Commissioner of a "Witch Hunt" in even wanting to change the County Oath of Office to include honoring all County Ordinances, wants to spend our tax money to go to Washington to attend a Federal Energy Commission meeting on the presumed current disposition of Bradwood Landing, where they have no testimony or input at all to just show their faces in representing our community?
I ask; What's the point?
They want to do something productive for us, get out there and find us some good clean industry to invite here that can put thousands in our community to work at good, living wage, sustainable jobs instead of just giving it lip service and waiting to abet the next wave of "Speculators" to wedge their jack boots in our door, uninvited by the community.
Better yet, take that $2-3,000(+) and donate it to the County Food Bank.
Any wonder why ammended County Comprehensive Plan and ammended Land Development and Water Use "Ordinance", 08-05's validity would be questioned by the Citizens of Clatsop County and Measure 4-131 get so much traction?
Regulation or Law, as in: The city council passed an ordinance against disturbing the peace.www.business-words.com/dictionary/O.html
Does common sense tell you that as an elected official and when you take your oath of office , that you should freely swear/affirm to uphold the Laws/Ordinances you are charged with overseeing, administering and legislating?
And the sitting Clatsop County Board of Commissioners wants to sidestep that in their oath by leaving "Upholding all Ordinances" out of their oath?
It truly seems they believe they actually are an "Island Unto Themselves" and are completely unaccountable to the community they vow to serve.
And now, two of those characters that scoff at honoring the ordinancees of the county, one, over the airwaves, publicly chortling that honoring these ordinances could get one recalled by simply "wearing a certain type dress" and the other, as well, accusing another County Commissioner of a "Witch Hunt" in even wanting to change the County Oath of Office to include honoring all County Ordinances, wants to spend our tax money to go to Washington to attend a Federal Energy Commission meeting on the presumed current disposition of Bradwood Landing, where they have no testimony or input at all to just show their faces in representing our community?
I ask; What's the point?
They want to do something productive for us, get out there and find us some good clean industry to invite here that can put thousands in our community to work at good, living wage, sustainable jobs instead of just giving it lip service and waiting to abet the next wave of "Speculators" to wedge their jack boots in our door, uninvited by the community.
Better yet, take that $2-3,000(+) and donate it to the County Food Bank.
Any wonder why ammended County Comprehensive Plan and ammended Land Development and Water Use "Ordinance", 08-05's validity would be questioned by the Citizens of Clatsop County and Measure 4-131 get so much traction?
Sunday, September 07, 2008
Blasts From The Past Or, How Prophetic History?
On Mar 22, 10:37 AM, Patrick McGee wrote:
(The Richard Lee Recall Vote Count)
64% For
36% Against
On Mar 22, 10:50 AM, THartill wrote:
Come now Patrick....
Richard could take a dump in the middle of the Guy Boyington building during a meeting and not be recalled by even close to that amount....there are just too many people that will support him no matter what.
Tryan Hartill January 7, 2008
There will be some major flooding during the first part of the year that will rival 1996.
The local housing market will weaken, but will be much stronger than the rest of the nation.
No Condos over the water will be built due to weak demand.
Building will continue around Astoria, but will slow inside the city limits.
Bradwood will be totally approved and will start construction in late 2008.
Oregon LNG will continue to battle, but achieve very little success.
Mark Kujala will be elected Mayor of Warrenton in January and keep his seat on the Commission in November by a landslide.
Terry Ferguson will either step down or lose in November.
Frank Orrell will win a nail-bitter.
Pete Roscoe will keep his seat on the Astoria City Council.
Russ Warr will lose a close one.
The slide above Bond Street will start up again.
The City of Astoria will install a water turbine in late 2008 and will cost twice as much as estimated so it can be installed quickly before the rainy season.
The Astoria/Warrenton Gas tax will bring in 2/3 of what was estimated.
Vince Williams and a Anti-LNG/Pro Josh Marquis person will run against Patricia Roberts…with Vince coming in 3rd in May and Patricia barely beating the Anti-LNG/Pro Marquis person in November.
Sam Patrick will not run again and a Anti-LNG/Pro Marquis person will run against Cary Johnson and Cary will win with 52% of the vote in May.
A recall will be tried against Richard Lee and will fail 55-45%.
The D.A. will have his 2 Staff Positions cut…along with 4 positions in other Depts. And the County will invoke a pay freeze for every employee to make up for a $1,000,000+ in declining Timber and other revenues.
Astoria will lose in the finals in the 4A Baseball Playoffs.
The Trailblazers will get the 7th Playoff spot in the West and Greg Oden will be cleared to play the first Playoff game.
50% more locals will be reading the local websites by the end of 2008.
The Daily Astorian will raise its Newspaper rates and lower it’s web-subscription rates to try to get more readers online and lower overhead.
All local elected officials will unite to demand a by-pass….and will continue to be ignored by ODOT.
If you have other predictions…put them in the comments….
(The Richard Lee Recall Vote Count)
64% For
36% Against
On Mar 22, 10:50 AM, THartill wrote:
Come now Patrick....
Richard could take a dump in the middle of the Guy Boyington building during a meeting and not be recalled by even close to that amount....there are just too many people that will support him no matter what.
Tryan Hartill January 7, 2008
There will be some major flooding during the first part of the year that will rival 1996.
The local housing market will weaken, but will be much stronger than the rest of the nation.
No Condos over the water will be built due to weak demand.
Building will continue around Astoria, but will slow inside the city limits.
Bradwood will be totally approved and will start construction in late 2008.
Oregon LNG will continue to battle, but achieve very little success.
Mark Kujala will be elected Mayor of Warrenton in January and keep his seat on the Commission in November by a landslide.
Terry Ferguson will either step down or lose in November.
Frank Orrell will win a nail-bitter.
Pete Roscoe will keep his seat on the Astoria City Council.
Russ Warr will lose a close one.
The slide above Bond Street will start up again.
The City of Astoria will install a water turbine in late 2008 and will cost twice as much as estimated so it can be installed quickly before the rainy season.
The Astoria/Warrenton Gas tax will bring in 2/3 of what was estimated.
Vince Williams and a Anti-LNG/Pro Josh Marquis person will run against Patricia Roberts…with Vince coming in 3rd in May and Patricia barely beating the Anti-LNG/Pro Marquis person in November.
Sam Patrick will not run again and a Anti-LNG/Pro Marquis person will run against Cary Johnson and Cary will win with 52% of the vote in May.
A recall will be tried against Richard Lee and will fail 55-45%.
The D.A. will have his 2 Staff Positions cut…along with 4 positions in other Depts. And the County will invoke a pay freeze for every employee to make up for a $1,000,000+ in declining Timber and other revenues.
Astoria will lose in the finals in the 4A Baseball Playoffs.
The Trailblazers will get the 7th Playoff spot in the West and Greg Oden will be cleared to play the first Playoff game.
50% more locals will be reading the local websites by the end of 2008.
The Daily Astorian will raise its Newspaper rates and lower it’s web-subscription rates to try to get more readers online and lower overhead.
All local elected officials will unite to demand a by-pass….and will continue to be ignored by ODOT.
If you have other predictions…put them in the comments….
Exiled From Another Blog Over Measure 4-131
AJ Liebling; "Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one."
With such casualness and the expending of fist loads of money on the part of Bradwood Landing/Northern Star Natural Gas and supporters to keep from visibly showing they are forced to blink, the issue of who is spewing misinformation on Measure 4-131 is really heating up.
Below is an exchange between myself and a local blog called "Oregon Guy" on a correction of information incorrectly posted on Natural Gas Pipelines that caused my expulsion.
It just isn't happening in this one example, it is rampant and coming from many local sources which lends creedence to the point that this is bad legislation and an acute misuse of a property zoned OPR (Open Space, Parks and Recreation)with no clear definition as to the rationale of the approval.
This is property intended for and quoting from the Clatsop County Land Development and Water Use Ordinance, Section 3.582, Purpose; The OPR zone is intended to provide for the conservation of Open Space; The development of areas uniquely suited for for Outdoor Recreation and the protection of designated Scenic, Natural and Cultural Resource areas.
The contention here and in the change to the Clatsop County Comprehensive Plan and the Clatsop County Land Development and Water Use Ordinance (Amendment 08-05, signed by Commissioner Patricia Roberts ion March 20, 2008) would allow Utility Transmission Rights of way through these properties and this property specifically, a 36" diameter, High Pressure Natural Gas Pipeline in what could likely be a 120' to 150' controlled right of way
Patrick McGee said...
The answer to your queries about my mechanical aptitude and experience is an affirmnative to all.The post and paragraph you are referencing in your presumed intellectual but, misguided musing was in response to misinformation on LNG pipelines posted on "Your", "This" blog and it reads; Put another way, a LNG pipeline is kind of an oxymoron. LNG is returned to a gaseous state before pipeline transmission, and natural gas pipeline pressure is generally around 2 ppf. Opponents are, quite simply, uninformed scare-mongers.
2 pounds per foot pipeline pressure, I believe, is incorrect and uninformed.
The average 36" diameter high pressure Natural Gas pipeline pressure is (+/-)1740 pounds per square inch.
Use as many comparatives as you wish but, it will not change the fact that the average pressure on that 36" dia. High Pressure Natural Gass pipeline is (+/-)1740pounds per square inch.
And now, T. Boone Pickens, lengendary oil man, says we don't need imported LNG at all, we have ample Natural Gas to wean ourselves off those imports.And by the way the appropriate use of the word, and I'm certain you being the intellectual you are, already knows this, is "Moron"
September 6, 2008 12:58 PM
Anonymous said...
McGee is a proud liar, He says thats his constitutional right. To lie to you to make his point and to convince you to come to the dark side. I'd wager its closer to 2 than 1740 psi to move something lighter than air. I could be wrong, been wrong before, I used to believe there was some good in Patrick McGee.
September 6, 2008 2:13 PM
Anonymous said...
This post has been removed by a blog administrator.
September 6, 2008 7:57 PM
Patrick McGee said...
This post has been removed by a blog administrator.
September 6, 2008 8:02 PM
Anonymous said...
This post has been removed by a blog administrator.
September 6, 2008 9:04 PM
Patrick McGee said...
This post has been removed by a blog administrator.
September 6, 2008 9:10 PM
OregonGuy said...
Boys--You wanna throw mud? Do it somewhere else.Anonymous...you are a boor. Start your own place. Just enter "blogspot" and get started. You can say whatever you want.Mr. McGee...you are a boor. Find another place to pick a fight.Both of you guys need to get a grip. Remember the Sermon on the Mount? Sometimes even I forget. Pick up a Bible and do some reading. It will be good for your soul.I apologize to all my readers for my guests' boorish behaviours. .
September 6, 2008 9:53 PM
Anonymous said...
apology accepted!
September 6, 2008 10:12 PM
Patrick McGee said...
Pick a fight "Tommy Boy"?Is that what you call correcting blatantly inaccurate and unqualified information, especially in a conversation on a critical, upcoming referendum (4-131) where you accuse others of presenting falsities?You should apologize to your few readers for your conduct, I agree.
September 7, 2008 8:41 AM
Patrick McGee said...
And now, unbelieveably you stoop to the level of manipulating content?Sad, sad, sad "Tommy"
September 7, 2008 8:45 AM
OregonGuy said...
Mr. McGee--You are no longer welcome here. You are toxic.
With such casualness and the expending of fist loads of money on the part of Bradwood Landing/Northern Star Natural Gas and supporters to keep from visibly showing they are forced to blink, the issue of who is spewing misinformation on Measure 4-131 is really heating up.
Below is an exchange between myself and a local blog called "Oregon Guy" on a correction of information incorrectly posted on Natural Gas Pipelines that caused my expulsion.
It just isn't happening in this one example, it is rampant and coming from many local sources which lends creedence to the point that this is bad legislation and an acute misuse of a property zoned OPR (Open Space, Parks and Recreation)with no clear definition as to the rationale of the approval.
This is property intended for and quoting from the Clatsop County Land Development and Water Use Ordinance, Section 3.582, Purpose; The OPR zone is intended to provide for the conservation of Open Space; The development of areas uniquely suited for for Outdoor Recreation and the protection of designated Scenic, Natural and Cultural Resource areas.
The contention here and in the change to the Clatsop County Comprehensive Plan and the Clatsop County Land Development and Water Use Ordinance (Amendment 08-05, signed by Commissioner Patricia Roberts ion March 20, 2008) would allow Utility Transmission Rights of way through these properties and this property specifically, a 36" diameter, High Pressure Natural Gas Pipeline in what could likely be a 120' to 150' controlled right of way
Patrick McGee said...
The answer to your queries about my mechanical aptitude and experience is an affirmnative to all.The post and paragraph you are referencing in your presumed intellectual but, misguided musing was in response to misinformation on LNG pipelines posted on "Your", "This" blog and it reads; Put another way, a LNG pipeline is kind of an oxymoron. LNG is returned to a gaseous state before pipeline transmission, and natural gas pipeline pressure is generally around 2 ppf. Opponents are, quite simply, uninformed scare-mongers.
2 pounds per foot pipeline pressure, I believe, is incorrect and uninformed.
The average 36" diameter high pressure Natural Gas pipeline pressure is (+/-)1740 pounds per square inch.
Use as many comparatives as you wish but, it will not change the fact that the average pressure on that 36" dia. High Pressure Natural Gass pipeline is (+/-)1740pounds per square inch.
And now, T. Boone Pickens, lengendary oil man, says we don't need imported LNG at all, we have ample Natural Gas to wean ourselves off those imports.And by the way the appropriate use of the word, and I'm certain you being the intellectual you are, already knows this, is "Moron"
September 6, 2008 12:58 PM
Anonymous said...
McGee is a proud liar, He says thats his constitutional right. To lie to you to make his point and to convince you to come to the dark side. I'd wager its closer to 2 than 1740 psi to move something lighter than air. I could be wrong, been wrong before, I used to believe there was some good in Patrick McGee.
September 6, 2008 2:13 PM
Anonymous said...
This post has been removed by a blog administrator.
September 6, 2008 7:57 PM
Patrick McGee said...
This post has been removed by a blog administrator.
September 6, 2008 8:02 PM
Anonymous said...
This post has been removed by a blog administrator.
September 6, 2008 9:04 PM
Patrick McGee said...
This post has been removed by a blog administrator.
September 6, 2008 9:10 PM
OregonGuy said...
Boys--You wanna throw mud? Do it somewhere else.Anonymous...you are a boor. Start your own place. Just enter "blogspot" and get started. You can say whatever you want.Mr. McGee...you are a boor. Find another place to pick a fight.Both of you guys need to get a grip. Remember the Sermon on the Mount? Sometimes even I forget. Pick up a Bible and do some reading. It will be good for your soul.I apologize to all my readers for my guests' boorish behaviours. .
September 6, 2008 9:53 PM
Anonymous said...
apology accepted!
September 6, 2008 10:12 PM
Patrick McGee said...
Pick a fight "Tommy Boy"?Is that what you call correcting blatantly inaccurate and unqualified information, especially in a conversation on a critical, upcoming referendum (4-131) where you accuse others of presenting falsities?You should apologize to your few readers for your conduct, I agree.
September 7, 2008 8:41 AM
Patrick McGee said...
And now, unbelieveably you stoop to the level of manipulating content?Sad, sad, sad "Tommy"
September 7, 2008 8:45 AM
OregonGuy said...
Mr. McGee--You are no longer welcome here. You are toxic.
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