While Tongue Point, like the Spexarth Building at 8th and Commercial in Astoria, sits virtually idle; what potential do you see in the use for this facility?
Why is it this facility is virtually ignored by all the "Economic Development Breakfast Clubs"?
No potential as a "Grant Cash Cow" in its current configuration?
No interest by the Sport/Commercial Fishing Industries as a "Super-Outfitting/Repair Facility"?
What do you think?
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There's always shipbreaking.
There is indeed but, as with LNG it's too easy a solution.
Dig deep.
What do you really think?
I think the sport/commercial fleet already have a spot for repair/outfitting at the port haulout and storage yard.
Why re-invent the wheel?
To produce a better wheel, that's why.
It's easy to understand then why "The Port" would not want to involve itself in any Tongue Point venture but, a private venture involving and catering to the Sport Fishing Industry would not be out of the question either.
Another Boat Builder?
Depending on markets, is there any reason why we could not have two Boat or Marine manufacturing facilities here?
Absolutely no reason whatsoever.
I'd like to see one boat/marine manufacturer! No matter where they locate.
The port is encouraging private companies to set up shop near the boat haulout yard.
Columbia pacific has set up shop as has Englund marine. A number of private local companies are currently working out of their "vans" as well. Some of those comapanies are considering setting up shop at the port.
From the fwiw dept.
I forgot to add that it is in the port's goals (year 2000) to aquire tongue point.
And of course it would be, what, 2006 going on 2007?
I thought the Port's true goal was to, ultimately, privatize itself?
Nevertheless, Tongue Point sits idle with virtually no activity and obviously no oversight or timeline to make something happen.
Seems to me one of your Port Dealmakers would have seen the obvious value and potential in this piece of property and put priority on making it productive.
There's another boat lift out there somewhere that will get the job done at Tongue Point as well.
I would like to see a competent developer take that property and run with it in the interest of community to see what could work best out there.
The property is for sale and has been for the past few years.
For a cool 6 million, you can own your own marine industrial site.
Currently Washington Marine Group owns the property.
The port's goal is not to privatize itself but to be self sufficient with its operations and not reliant on property taxes but to use those taxes for economic development.
We do see the value of the tongue point property. Unfortunately, the port does not have the financial means to buy the property.
As far as your statement about a "competent developer" having the property, they don't get much more competent than the current owner. At least I can't think of anyone.
Donald Trump maybe.
"Columbia pacific has set up shop as has Englund marine. A number of private local companies are currently working out of their "vans" as well. Some of those comapanies are considering setting up shop at the port."
Isn't this pathetic.
Here you say "The Port" has compannies working out of their vans, considering setting up shop in Marine Related business and once again, look at the photo, Tongue Point sits out there idle with one 50,000 Sq.Ft. Empty Building and one 80 Plus thousand Sq. Ft. ready for somebody in a Marine Related industry to move into and I would venture, go right to work,
Docks.
Boat/Haul out Ramp.
Hard Tarmac.
What else?
And "The Port" of course, focussed on its own agenda just ignores it and refuses to work in the community by using its power, if any, to help make Tongue Point productive.
So Glenn, why is that?
By God, if "The Port" can just go to the State Economic Development Commission, whatever that name is and Mother Commission for Oegon Ports and get an additional 4 Million Dollars deep in construction of an obviously ill-planned project, "the Port" can sure as heck get funding for Tongue Point and "Pilot Project" funding for just about anything don't you think?
I still see a Citizen's Economic Development Task Force in our future if we want to protect this community's future and purposefully create the opportunites for industry that compliments and works in it.
I guess I don't understand where you are coming from. Let me take a stab at what I think you are saying.
You think the port should have focused its haulout/boatyard efforts at tongue point rather than at the port?
How?
As I stated previously, we do not control the property at tongue point. The Washington Group has been marketing the property. They have never asked the port for assistance.
And if there was interest by the commercial/rec fleets, why hasn't anything happened at tongue point?
I believe we can go to the oedc for funding. Got a project in mind? Not only do you need a project, but you need someone to make the debt payment for that loan. In Bornsteins case, it is Mr. Bornstein who is guaranteeing that loan.
I said earlier that the port has a goal of aquiring tongue point. I guarantee you the state won't be lending us money to buy it without a bird in hand. If you will take notice, all of our loans have been given because of a bird in hand.
Regarding your comment about creating opportunities for industry, look no further than the port. Industry is booming.
Let's count the current projects.
Lektro
Pier One Marina
West Marina expansion
East marina breakwater repair
Waterline to airport
Bornsteins
Englund Marine
Red Building
Riverland LLC (across from port bldg)
How busy do you want the port to be?
We only have so much staff.
What other local public agency is providing more economic opportunities?
What private group(s) are providing more economic opportunities.
I guess I don't understand your comment suggesting the port isn't helping to develop industry.
Tongue Point is not deep water except for the channel. It's a rock bottom with about 16-22 ft max depth. I suits no viable shipping concern. Mr. Gearin already raped this for his own pocketbook. This is where the college should go, plenty of parking, room for expansion ect, ect.
Tired of the same dredging and redredging year after year
How many jobs, family wages and benefits Taggart?
That is outside of Lektro.
And now you want to put a trash dump in the airport.
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