Thursday, May 27, 2010

Tongue Point: Shipbreaking Again??












Does this crap never end and for the third attempt yet?

The Vessel Above? An 1850Ton Cargo Vessel. Click On This To Read Its Specs And You Will Find This Is Not Necessarily What Some Would Call A Small Boat?






...."However, there are still are a few companies in the business in the United States. Though rules relating to the handling and disposal of the


toxic materials that are built into old ships, including residual hydrocarbons, lead paint, asbestos, and PCBs, make the business run differently here then in the wild East ("ship breaking” is a term that is slowly being replaced by “ship recycling”). The industry is subsidized by the fact that federal policy prevents government ships from being scrapped by other countries, for the most part. With hundreds of such ships floating around the country, and around the globe, the domestic ship breaking industry is likely to continue".....Shipbreaking In America, It All Comes Apart At The Bottom of The U.S.A.

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

Looks like a good steady industry. Enviro and worker hazzard laws in the US are stricter and more encompassing than anywhere else at anytime in history. It will provide much needed jobs here. Anyone who is against it doesnt have to work there, so lets encourage them locating here.

Tired of GOBs said...

Oh yeah....real clean industry.
What are we...Mumbai??
You people are desperate.
Astoria is not.

Patrick said...

Absolutely not! Astoria does not want or need the smelly, dirty kind of things that ship breaking bring. We don't want the stinky welders with their dirty clothes, and the well worn clerks, contractors and inspectors, that would actually dare to eat in town. We certainly don't want the kind of dirt and dust in our air, and the noise, that metal cutting brings. And, we especially don't want it in the isolated area of North Tongue Point.
Instead, we really want the sweet smell of old, wet bark and mossy trees laying in the middle of town, with the soft sound of 18 wheelers constantly unloading and the wonderful clanking of fork lifts, log pickers and crains moving huge logs onto ships bound for China. This is real business that support locals and even increases the need for our wonderful fire service to keep the City from burning down in the off chance that the cold deck fails. No Sir, Government, don't allow the ship breaking work at all costs!!

Patrick McGee said...

Well, Patrick I guess we will see how important what and who is to our "Port Commission" won't we?

Shipbreaking?

Log Export?

LNg Terminals?

The interests of the people in whose trust they serve and do the "Public Business" of?

Sam said...

Welders?
Do you know what's involved in ship breaking.
Not exactly high skill jobs.
This is the problem.
Dpon't get any education and welcome ANY industry, no matter how unsustainable, how destructive....
That's not pro-business. That's just plain stupid.

Anonymous said...

Do you know what's involved in ship breaking.

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Do You? Have you done it. Ship breaking makes sense to me unless of course we receive the ships and build up a fleet of
astorian pirates.
How about low cost housing. Attacking LNG facilities under construction.

What happens to the scraps. Use for a needed barrier reef. I've had the movie waterworld running thru my head lately.


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Many people would go down and work. If I was younger I would do it just to learn the welding. People have got to do things and fast to keep from going crazy from watching Glen Beck.

I know it would be dirty but maybe Carrie would allow Foster to work down there taking samples. A good deed from the Carrie,(get her off the Big Energy Train), Working people would be grateful to the Port, (if the port can pull it off), New background for scenes for Goonie 5.
Cleaning up and testing would be a specialized field.
Sounds intriguing Patrick. You should run for mayor. Really.

Anonymous said...

Also security guard jobs.

Anonymous said...

You people are desperate.
Astoria is not.


Uh, you are the voice of Astoria or something?

Anonymous said...

how unsustainable, how destructive....

It's a legitimate recycling industry-it's "sustainable" and not destructive.

Patrick McGee said...

Anonymous said...
how unsustainable, how destructive....

It's a legitimate recycling industry-it's "sustainable" and not destructive.

10:32 PM


First things first.

Here we are with an alleged company, wnats to do Shipbreaking at Tongue Point, that you can't even "Google-up" and no listing on the State of Oregon Business Registry and Port of Astoria is now actually going to waste staff time in doing some type of Due Diligence?

First thing, again, is to get a current Financial Statement from these people now and qualify them from there.

The anonymous contributor is right that Shipbreaking is a recyclable businee but nothing to put on the Lower Columbia River for any reason and a little reading on his/her part will convince them.

Patrick McGee said...

Anonymous said...
how unsustainable, how destructive....

It's a legitimate recycling industry-it's "sustainable" and not destructive.


The "New Term" by the same U.S. Shipbreaking Companies(4) is "Ship Recycling".

Look at the photo above of the ESCO Facility in Brownsville, Texas with a socalled recycle underway of what is termed a "Small Ship"?

And this you want at Tongue Point?

Anonymous said...

who says it's nothing to put on the Columbia River? Who says? There's been other ship scraping operations along the Columbia in the past-did they offend your delicate sensibilities too? Who are you to decide what goes where, anyway?

Patrick McGee said...

Anonymous said...
who says it's nothing to put on the Columbia River? Who says? There's been other ship scraping operations along the Columbia in the past-did they offend your delicate sensibilities too? Who are you to decide what goes where, anyway?


I say it, I am Patrick McGee, a resident of the Lower Columbia River, Astoria, Clatsop County in The State of Oregon and have every right to say it and Tongue Point, in my view, is in no way the place for it nor any place nearby.

You?

Who are you and where is it you exist?

Anonymous said...

Tongue Point, in my view, is in no way the place for it nor any place nearby.

And why is that? What does where it is have to do with you?

Patrick McGee said...

nymous said...
Tongue Point, in my view, is in no way the place for it nor any place nearby.

And why is that? What does where it is have to do with you?

7:22 PM


It has everything to do with me, you and 9998 or so others, immediately,if you live here.

You live here?

Anonymous said...

"Everything" to do with you?

Can you be a little more vague?

It's actually none of your business, but try to explain how a ship recycling facility at Tongue Point is going to directly affect you.

Patrick McGee said...

Anonymous said...
"Everything" to do with you?

Can you be a little more vague?

It's actually none of your business, but try to explain how a ship recycling facility at Tongue Point is going to directly affect you.

10:50 PM

It is my business, has everything to do with me, you and 9998 or so others, not counting the rest that live on the Lower Columbia, immediately,if you live here and there is ample reading referenced above and elsewhere that should explain why it is not meant for us as has been the reasons before.

You live here?

Tell us why it "Should" be here.


7:42 PM